Minutes Planning Committee 15 October 2018


MINUTES of the Meeting of the Planning Committee held on Monday 15 October 2018 at 7.30pm in the Lionel Rigby Room at the Village Centre, Rogers Lane, Stoke Poges

Present:-  Cllr Crocker (Chair), Mr Duncombe, Mr Harris, Cllr Hoskins & Cllr Taylor.

In attendance:-  Mrs J Simmonds (Clerk)




050/PL/18            Items by Members of Public Present.

The meeting is open to the public and press and the first 15 minutes will be reserved, if required, for public comment.



051/PL/18            Apologies for Absence

APOLOGIES were received from Cllr Carter.


052/PL/18         Declarations of Interest

Members to declare any personal interest in any item of business as defined in the Code of Conduct 2007.  If that interest is a prejudicial interest as defined in the Code, the member should withdraw from the meeting for that item.



053/PL/18            Minutes

RESOLVED to Approve the Minutes of the Planning Meeting held on 17 September 2018 which were signed by the Chairman.


054/PL/18            Planning Applications

(i) RESOLVED to approve delegated decisions submitted for Planning Applications for which the response date was prior to this Committee Meeting.   See Appendix 1.

(ii) RESOLVED To consider and formulate a response to new Planning Applications received. See Appendix 2. Plus amended plans for information only.


055/PL/18            NOTED Planning Decisions, Enforcements and Appeals.

District Decisions made since the last Planning Committee Meeting.  See Appendix 3.


056/PL/18            Outstanding Enforcements See Appendix 4.


057/PL/18            Correspondence.


058/PL/18            Exclusion of the Press & Public

Public Bodies (Admission to Meetings) Act 1960  RESOLVED to exclude the press and public from the following business because publicity would prejudice the public interest by reason of the confidential nature of the business.  Part two items:- To discuss any possible unlawful buildings or business’s which have not been granted enforcement notices and therefore are not public.


NOTED Next meeting date:  19 November 2018


Meeting ended at 8.20pm






Signed/Chairman                                                                                                                               Dated







PL/18/3148/FA                   Khalsa Secondary Academy Part, Pioneer House, Hollybush Hill, Stoke Poges

The installation of temporary classrooms arranged in a single block and a double storey block for a temporary period until 1 March 2019.

Parish Comments:-  OBJECT in Green Belt.  Policies GB1, EP3 (a), (b), (c) & (d) all apply as well as TR5 & TR7 as we are assuming they are required to house students that cannot be accommodated in the existing building.  This will result in more traffic which the surrounding areas cannot accommodate.   The 50% Green Belt rules also apply.  If minded to approve there must be strict conditions that they come down in March 2019 and permission is NOT extended.   These temporary buildings are sighted close to neighbouring properties and will lead to loss of privacy and an increase in noise disturbance.  Therefore if minded to approve we ask that the blocks be reversed so that the single block is nearest the boundary and the two storey sited nearest the existing building so that the double block does not overlook  into the neighbouring properties and cause them loss of privacy.  We would ask that the trees remain undisturbed.  These temporary buildings will, in our view, negatively impact the open nature of the area.


PL/18/3166/FA                   35 Bunby Road, Stoke Poges, Bucks, SL2 4BS

Single storey side and rear extension.

Parish Comments:-  No Comment


PL/18/3296/FA                   The Grey House, 61 Plough lane, Stoke Poges, Bucks, SL2 4JP

Detached garage.

Parish Comments:-  Object, the Green Belt 50% rules apply.  This property is already under enforcement for illegal outbuildings and solar panels both of which have no planning permission.  There was already an orginal garage which was converted, this application should not be allowed for these reasons.


PL/18/3350/FA                   Leven House, Park Road, Stoke Poges, Bucks, SL2 5PA

Redevelopment of site to provide three storey building with 5 apartments and demolition of existing dwelling.

Parish Comments:-  Object policy TR5 applies.  This is a renowned junction for accidents and speeding and there will be too much extra traffic movement which will be dangerous.


PL/18/3198/FA                   32 Deans Close, Stoke Poges, Bucks, SL2 4JX

New Vehicle crossover.

Parish Comments:-  No Comment


PL/18/3459/FA                   Dower House, Stoke Court Drive, Stoke Poges, Bucks, SL2 4LU

Single Storey infill ground floor rear extension.

Parish Comments:-  No Objection subject to the 50% Green Belt Rules.


PL/18/3506/FA                   The Clock House, Park Road, Stoke Poges, Bucks, SL2 4PE

Creation of a wildlife pond.

Parish Comments:-  No Comment


PL/18/3507/SA                   51 Plough Lane, Stoke Poges, Bucks, SL2 4JP

Application for a Certificate of Lawfulness for proposed: Single Storey side/rear extension and loft conversion.

Parish Comments:-  No Comment







PL/18/2061/FA                   8 Cherry Orchard, Stoke Poges, Bucks, SL2 4PY

Two storey infill extension to front, detached garage changes to fenestration and internal alterations.

Parish Comments:-  No Comment



PL/18/2747/FA                   83 Hazell Way, Stoke Poges, Bucks, SL2 4DG

Single storey side and rear extension.

Parish Council Comments:   No Comment



PL/18/2904/FA                   4 Hazell Way, Stoke Poges, Bucks, SL2 4BN

Erection of single storey rear extension to existing integral garage and front porch extension.

Parish Council Comments:   No comment



18/00679/OUT                    St. Andrews Church Centre, Rogers Lane, Stoke Poges, Bucks, SL2 4LN

Outline application for:  First floor extension to provide 4 x 2 bedroom flats.

Parish Comments:-  Concerns by opening up the spare parking area will existing spaces be lost to create new

parking?  Concerns of overdevelopment of an already congested area next to the school, church and village hall,

also this is in a conservation area.  The flats will also be overlooking the school playground.



18/00865/FUL                    Firs Field Storage Building, Duffield Lane, Stoke Poges, Bucks,

Erection of a detached single storey dwelling following with demolition of the existing storage building.

Parish Comments:-  Our Previous Comments Still Apply which were:-

Object Policies GB2 ( a),( b), (c) & ( d) and (giii) , and GB1all apply!

It is not considered that the existing farm building is of ‘substantial’ construction and capable of conversion into a dwelling without major re-construction. In addition the resulting dwelling and its associated garden/residential curtilage would have an urbanising impact on this rural setting and would erode the openness of the Green Belt and conflict with its purposes of safeguarding the countryside from encroachment. The proposal would constitute inappropriate development in the Green Belt which by definition is harmful and would be contrary to the aims of saved policies GB1 and GB2 of the South Bucks District Local Plan (adopted March 1999) and the guidance set out in the NPPF. 2. The application has failed to provide adequate survey information relating to bats and reptiles on the site. As such it has not possible to properly assess the impact of the proposed development on these protected species. In addition the application has failed to demonstrate how net gain for biodiversity will be obtained. The application is therefore contrary to Core Policy CP9 of the South Bucks Core Strategy (adopted February 2011) and the guidance set out of the NPPF.

This proposal, if permitted, would be likely to act as a precursor of further applications for similar types of development within this part of the Green Belt, which the District Planning Authority would find increasingly difficult to resist and which, cumulatively, would further seriously prejudice the openness of the Green Belt and the aims and objectives of the Green Belt Policy.

The Design and Access statement associated with this application states that the existing building is clad in corrugated metal.  We disagree strongly with this statement.  This is not a clad building it is an unstable structure primarily constructed of corrugated sheets.

We also disagree with the statement on page 18 of this application that the site has existing vehicular access.  There is currently no road or access suitable for vehicles.

The elevations and floor plans of the existing structure provided with this application are extremely inaccurate and falsely give the impression of a permanent and substantial structure.

We find the fact that this building has B use extremely strange.  It has never been used as any form of employment.

The application site is located within the Metropolitan Green Belt wherein there is a general presumption against inappropriate development except in very special circumstances. It has not been demonstrated that the existing building to be converted is of permanent and substantial construction and capable of conversion without major or complete re-construction. In addition the associated use of the land would detract from the open and undeveloped character of the Green Belt. The proposal constitutes inappropriate development within the Green Belt, which by definition is harmful, and no very special circumstances have been advanced sufficient to warrant an exception to Green Belt policy. As such the proposal is contrary to policies GB1 and GB2 of the South Bucks District Local Plan (adopted March 1999) and section 9 (Protecting Green Belt Land) of the NPPF. 2.

The proposed development would result in an intensification of use of an existing access at a point where visibility is substandard and would lead to danger and inconvenience to people using it and to highway users in general. The development is therefore contrary to saved policy TR5 of the South Buicks District Local Plan (adopted March 1999), the aims of the Buckinghamshire’s Local Transport Plan 4 and the guidance set out in the NPPF.


Also the existing drawings DO NOT reflect a true picture of what is currently there!!






18/00097/FUL                    The Baobab, Framewood Road, Stoke Poges, Bucks, SL3 6PG

Conversion of the existing ancillary outbuilding into a self-contained residential dwelling and new vehicular access.

Parish Comments:-  Object this is contrary to Policies GB1 & GB2, and section 9 of the NPPF and TR5, as

outlined and reference to SBDC Refusal comments to the last application 17/01099/FUL, nothing has changed and

all of those refusal comments still apply.

Refusal Full Planning Permission

Written Reps by 10 September 2018

Appeal Dismissed


18/00676/FUL                    Brookdale, Bells Hill, Stoke Poges, Bucks, SL2 4ED

Redevelopment of site to provide 7 dwellings a=with associated parking and access.

Parish Comments:-  Our Previous comments still apply which were:-

Concerns of overdevelopment.  Although statutory parking spaces have been met there are

concerns about visitor parking as the only other place to park is the main road B416 which suffers from speeding


Also policies H9 (a), (b) & section 840, and TR7 (d) & (b), and EP3 (a), (b) & (d) all apply.

Refusal of Planning Permission

Written Reps by 15 October 2018