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Stoke Poges Parish Council

Planning Committee - Meeting Minutes

Monday 16th January 2023


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Introduction

MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMITTEE MEETING HELD ON16 JANUARY 2023 AT 7.30PM IN THE LIONEL RIGBY ROOM AT THE VILLAGE CENTRE, ROGERS LANE, STOKE POGES, SL2 4LP

Present: – Cllr Carter (Chair), Cllr Bassi, Cllr Crocker, Cllr Finan, Mr Harris & Mr Rawlings.

In Attendance:- Mrs J Simmonds (Clerk)

Agenda Items

087/PL/23 Items by Members of Public Present.

The meeting is open to the public and press and the first 15 minutes will be reserved, if required, for public comment.

None

088/PL/23 Apologies for Absence

APOLOGIES for absence was received from Cllr Knox-Scott.

089/PL/23 Declarations of Interest

Members to declare any personal interest in any item of business as defined in the Code of Conduct 2007.  If that interest is a prejudicial interest as defined in the Code, the member should withdraw from the meeting for that item.

None

090/PL/23 Minutes

RESOLVED to Approve the Minutes of the Planning Meeting held on 12 December 2022 which were signed by the Chairman.

091/PL/23 Planning Applications

(i) RESOLVED to approve delegated decisions submitted for Planning Applications for which the response date was prior to this Committee Meeting.   See Appendix 1.

(ii) RESOLVED to consider and formulate a response to new Planning Applications received. See Appendix 2. Plus amended plans for information only.

092/PL/23 NOTED Planning Decisions, Enforcements and Appeals.

District Decisions made since the last Planning Committee Meeting.  See Appendix 3.

093/PL/23 Correspondence.

094/PL/23 Meeting Equipment

To discuss whether we need further equipment to run the planning meetings efficiently. Defer to February.

095/PL/23 Neighbourhood Plan

No Updates since last meeting.

096/PL/23 Exclusion of the Press & Public

Public Bodies (Admission to Meetings) Act 1960 RESOLVED to exclude the press and public from the following business because publicity would prejudice the public interest by reason of the confidential nature of the business.  Part two items: To discuss any possible unlawful buildings or business’s which have not been granted enforcement notices and therefore are not public.

097/PL/23 NOTED Outstanding Enforcements See Appendix 4.

AGREED by all to write to head of Enforcement about non receipt of replies to emails and updates.

098/PL/23 NOTED Next meeting date:  20 February 2023

APPENDIX 1 - DELEGATED DECISIONS

APPENDIX 2 - NEW PLANNING APPLICATIONS RECEIVED

PL/22/4092/FA Hornbeam Cottage, Rickmans Lane, Stoke Poges, Bucks, SL2 4AF

Single storey side extension and alteration of roof line to change from hip to gable with the addition of a dormer window to north elevation.

Parish Comments: – No Comment

PL/22/4139/FA March Cottage, Bells Hill, Stoke Poges, Bucks, SL2 4DY

Part two, part first floor side/rear extension, new entrance door and front porch extension and window/door alterations, the addition of a roof light to rear elevation and removal of existing car port and the removal of the front elevation roof light.

Parish Comments:- No Objection subject to the Green Belt 50% rules.

PL/22/4135/FA 1 Pennylets Green, Stoke Poges, Bucks, SL2 4BU

Part two, part single storey rear and side and front porch extensions.

Parish Comments: – No Comment

PL/22/3464/FA 99 Rogers Lane, Stoke Poges, Bucks, SL2 4LP

Flat green roofed detached double garage, retaining walls, new vehicular entrance gates and picket fence to front and sides of drive.

Parish Comments: – No Comment

PL/22/4210/VRC Autologic Systems, Brockhurst Park, Rickmans Lane, Stoke Poges, Bucks, SL2 4AF

Variation of condition 8 (approved plans) of pp PL/19/3391/DE (App for reserved matters following outline pp 17?01996/OUT, Redevelopment of the site to provide three detached dwellings with detached garages) for access appearance, landscaping, layout and scale) to allow for changes to landscaping and the addition of fencing, brick walls and gates.

Parish Comments:-  Object, Policies GB1 (1) & (2), EP3 (a), (b), (c), (d) & (e), and EP4 all apply.

This proposal, if permitted would be likely to act as a precursor of further applications for similar types of development within this part of the Greenbelt, which the Planning Authority would find increasingly difficult to resist and which, which, cumulatively, would seriously prejudice the openness of the Greenbelt and the aims and objectives of Greenbelt policy.

The application is therefore contrary to Core Policy CP9 of the South Bucks Core Strategy (adopted February 2011) and the guidance set out of the NPPF.

PL/22/4222/FA 16 Wakefield Crescent, Stoke Poges, Bucks, SL2 4DF

Erection of front extension, side facing dormer over existing garage, single storey side and rear extensions and first floor rear extension with internal alterations.

Parish Comments: – No Comment

PL/22/4264/FA The Copse, West End Lane, Stoke Poges, Bucks, SL2 4NA

Erection of a 4-bedroom detached dwelling with integral garage.

Parish Comments:- Object Policy EP3 (a) & (b) Applies.  Overdevelopment of site.

PL/22/4293/TP 17 Freemans Close, Stoke Poges, Bucks, SL2 4ER

T1 Lime – remove (TPO/SBDC/2003/12)

Parish Comments: – No Objection subject to the Tree Officer report.

PL/22/4288/FUL 3 Home Farm Way, Wexham, Bucks, SL3 6NZ

First floor side extension and ground floor store conversion to habitable space.

Parish Comments: – No Comment

PL/22/4341/TP 32 Freemans Close, Stoke Poges, Bucks, SL2 4ER

T1 Scots Pine – fell; T2 Scots Pine – fell: T3 Scots Pine – fell. (SBDC, TPO No 12, 2003, G7)

Parish Comments: – Object to the loss of three perfectly healthy trees, there is no information to that they are not healthy so we refer to the Tree Officers report.

PL/22/4342/TP 6 Fircroft Close, Stoke Poges, Bucks, SL2 4DS

T1 Douglas Fir Tree – Remove lower limb (SBDC TPO No. 12, 1974)

Parish Comments:-  No Objection subject to the Tree Officers report.

PL/22/4256/HB Stoke Green Farmhouse, Stoke Green, Stoke Poges, Bucks, SL2 4HN

Listed building consent for single storey ground floor rear extension.

Parish Comments: – No Comment

PL/22/4083/FA Stoke Green Farmhouse, Stoke Green, Stoke Poges, Bucks, SL2 4HN

Single storey ground floor rear extension.

Parish Comments: – No Comment

AMENDED PLANS

NOTED TREE PRESERVATION ORDER

TPO/2022/0006/SOUTH Land at Meadow View, Duffield Lane, Stoke Poges, Bucks, SL2 4AH

Tree Preservation Order 2022, No 0006 of 2022 South, Notice of Confirmation

NOTED APPENDIX 3

PLANNING DECISIONS

PL/22/3359/PAHAS Heatherset, Farthing Green Lane, Stoke Poges, Bucks, SL2 4JH

Notification under the Town and Country Planning (General Permitted Development) Order 2015, Amendment to Part 1 of Schedule 2 Class AA for additional storey to existing dwellinghouse (maximum height increase 2.7 meters)

Parish Comments: – Object. Totally out of keeping, Policies GB10 (a) (b) (c) & (d) apply as well as EP3. 

By way of design, in the context of the sites surroundings, the proposed replacement dwelling and gates would adversely affect the character and amenities of the street scene and the locality in general, and would fail to respond positively to the features of the site itself and the surrounding context.  The proposal would therefore fail to comply with policies EP3 and H9 of the South Bucks District Local Plan (adopted March 1999) as well as CP8 of the South Bucks Core Strategy Development Plan Document and would be contrary to the above provisions of the Local Plan, NPPF and National Design Guide.

This property is already extended and we would ask that you are mindful of the Green Belt 50% rules.

Hereby Refuses Prior Approval Permission

PL/22/3494/FA Barton Spinney, Church Lane, Stoke Poges, Bucks, SL2 4NZ

Demolition of existing garage/shed and roofs to garage areas, erection of a single storey side extension, single storey rear extension and replacing all windows similar as existing.

Parish Comments: – No Comment subject to the Green Belt 50% rules.

Herby Permits

PL/22/3670/FA 24 Clevehurst Close, Stoke Poges, Bucks, SL2 4EP

Part two, part first floor side, part two, part single storey rear, single storey side and front porch extensions, new dormer to rear roof space.

Parish Comments: – No Comment

Hereby Permits

PL/22/3720/TP Clevehurst Lodge, Gerrards Cross Road, Stoke Poges, Bucks, SL2 4EJ

T1 incencse cedar – fell (TPO/SBDC/2008/12)

Parish Comments: – No Comment

used for a relative or employee.

Hereby Grants Consent

PL/22/3816/TP 13 Freemans Close, Stoke Poges, Bucks, SL2 4ER

TP7, TP8, TP9 and TP10 birch – reduction and thinning (TPO No. 12, 2003).

Parish Comments:- No objection subject to the Tree Officer report.

Hereby Grants Consent

PL/20/2595/FA 35 Penn Meadow, Stoke Poges, Bucks, SL2 4EB

Erection of 2-bedroom bungalow with vehicular access.

Parish Council Comments:   Object.  It is our belief that this proposal if permitted would be likely to act as a precursor for similar developments in the area.

We believe that the new proposed access would have a detrimental impact on pedestrian and highway safety.  In addition, the existing property on the site already has an access point.  A second access point if permitted on the B416 would add to the danger and inconvenience on this busy road.  We are also extremely concerned about the loss of green space with regard to the grass verge on the B416 which is an urbanising feature in this road.

We would ask that you are mindful of Section 2.7.6 of the “Townscape Character Study”.

We feel that the following clauses apply with regard to this application EP3 b and f and H9 a and b.

WITHDRAWN

PL/22/3260/VRC 99 Rogers Lane, Stoke Poges, Bucks, SL2 4LP

Variation of condition 18 (approved plans) of PP PL/22/1796/VRC – Variation of condition 17 (approved plans of PP PL/22/0466/FA (Demolition of bungalow and garage and erection of detached dwelling with new access and drive position with surface parking and boundary fences) to increase roof pitch and width to allow for: alterations to the roof to include rooflights and dormer windows.

Parish Comments: – Object.  This property has already had a previous planning application PL/21/2797/FA turned down.  We believe the comments we made still apply to this current application which were: –

Object Policies C1, EP3 and H9 all apply.  The new house would appear over dominant, obtrusive and as such would have an impact on the street scene and the visual amenities of the area.  We note there is no SUDS report – NPPF 156.  This proposal would be likely to act as a precursor for similar types of development which the local authority would find it increasingly difficult to resist.

We would draw your attention to the Officers refusal comments regarding application PL/21/2797/FA which we feel still apply to this current application, his comments were: –

Having regard to the scale and bulky appearance of the proposed dwelling, it is considered that in terms of height, scale, form and design it represents a form of development incompatible with, and unsympathetic to, the character and appearance of neighbouring development. The proposed dwelling would appear overscale and out of keeping in the street scene, in conflict with the principles set out in policies EP3 and H9 of the South Bucks District Local Plan (1999) and failing to accord with advice in the National Planning Policy Framework (2021). 2. The scale and bulk of the proposed dwelling would result in a form of development that would appear overscale and out of keeping with the area in which it is set, and the excessive depth of span, use of a flat crown roof and high eaves line are significant elements that contribute to the inappropriately bulky appearance of the proposal. The proposed dwelling would therefore fail to maintain or enhance the character and appearance of the Conservation Area, but rather would detract from the significance of the heritage asset. The harm to the heritage asset is considered ‘less than substantial harm’ having regard to the fact that the development is restricted to a single residential curtilage within the Conservation Area, however no public benefit has been identified sufficient to outweigh the harm that would be caused. The proposed development therefore conflicts with guidance set out in Section 16 of the National Planning Policy Framework (2021) and fails to accord with policy C1 of the South Bucks District Local Plan (1999).

It is our view that this new application for a variation looks remarkably similar to the refused application.  With regard the accommodation in the roof we feel Appendix 7.2 and 7.3 apply and have grave concerns about the overlooking and privacy aspect.  We also believe Appendix 2 applies.

Hereby Permits

PL/22/2776/FA – Langdale Grays Park Road Stoke Poges Buckinghamshire SL2 4JG

Proposal: Demolition of dwellinghouse and erection of detached dwelling with parking and amenities

Objections submitted – two neighbours.

Highways – no objection

Parish Comments: – Object:

Policy H9 (a) Not in keeping with the street scene.

H10 (e) – the character is not compatible to the properties within the vicinity.

GB 11 (d) Property is in greenbelt and building material should be in keeping with neighbouring properties.

EP5 (b) – the property will cause a loss of daylight to adjacent property.

WITHDRAWN

PL/21/3790/FA Land to the rear of 35 Penn Meadow, Stoke Poges, Bucks, SL2 4EB

AMENDED PLANS

Erection of dwellinghouse, 1 meter boundary fence, access gate and new vehicular access to Bells Hill.

Parish Comments: – Object, previous comments apply which were: –

Object our previous comments still apply which were:- It is our belief that this proposal if permitted would be likely to act as a precursor for similar developments in the area. We believe that the new proposed access would have a detrimental impact on pedestrian and highway safety. In addition the existing property on the site already has an access point which could be share.  A second access point if permitted on the B416 would add to the danger and inconvenience on this busy road. We are also extremely concerned about the loss of green space with regard to the grass verge on the B416 which is an urbanising feature in this road, we believe that on entering the village there should be the softness of a verge. We would ask that you are mindful of Section 2.7.6 of the “Townscape Character Study”. We feel that the following clauses apply with regard to this application EP3 b and f and H9 a and b. In addition to these comments the design is not in keeping with house in Penn Meadow. The Design and Access statement does not correlate with the drawings. There is mention solar panels but they are missing from the plans, we also still strongly object to the loss of green space on the grass verge on the B416 as mentioned above. Policies as mentioned above all still apply. H9, H13 & EP3 all apply.

The proposed development would result in the introduction of a detached dwelling and the subdivision of the existing plot. The proposed dwelling would be set adjacent to the southern flank boundary, and the proposed retained dwelling would also be set adjacent to the flank boundary. This would result in a loss of spaciousness to the site, and a resultant cramped appearance. Moreover, the dwelling would be set behind the existing building line and would fail to accord with the uniform appearance of this part of Penn Meadow which is an important characteristic of the locality. Consequently, the development would appear as incongruous within the street scene and would erode the spacious and consistent character of the site. The proposed scheme would therefore fail to accord with the design aspirations of part 12 of the National Planning Policy Framework (2021), C1 of the National Design Guide, Core policy CP8 of South Bucks District Core Strategy (2011), the South Bucks Residential Design Guide (2008), the principles of the Chiltern and South Bucks Townscape Character Study (2017) and policies EP3 and H9 of the South Bucks District Local Plan (1999)

Herby Permits

ENFORCEMENTS

APPEAL

Meeting ended at 8.55pm